This makes our site more accessible to the blind, visually impaired, motor disabled, people with cognitive disabilities and more. The U.S. Infantryman Vietnam Pocket Manual contains gems such as infantry "patrol tips," maneuver techniques, and fighting methods for various environments. No. Not to mention that right now its safer than some cities in the us. They were glad to see me as it had been a while for replacements with the unit. Most war stories are about soldiers and battles. Then we learned, appx: 1 mile to our North was, an American AMMO storage area. The man with the carbine immediately dropped it, and the two VC surrendered. Calculate the pH of a solution of 0.157 M pyridine. 10 1/2 months in the bush. In our spare time we did medevacs and medcaps for the local communities and when required inserted SEALs . I had been shot in the back early in the battle and was lying behind a log with two other soldiers. Fighters and planes dont make up the Army, thats the Air Force. I carried the PRC-25 for most of a year. happened. I just wanted to get off No. In a strange country scared shitless .I was a minesweeper.My first time out on a mission they put me on the drag line fifty yards from the road which was route 1, Then all hell broke lose 1 Gun over my shoulder, grabbed a corner of a poncho and stumbled off with three other soldiers. Name the major nerves that serve the following body areas? Do the math. It was one of my most memorable tours in the Navy I later went to a carrier and was bored silly because I had about 1% of the responsibilities I had as an O-2. US Wings is a veteran-owned business and an official supplier to the US Military. The next three weeks passed uneventfully. The Australian Vietnam veteran study assessed the postservice mortality of 19 205 Vietnam veterans and 25 677 non-Vietnam veterans through 1981. The average age of the 58,148 killed in Vietnam was 23.11 years (Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 database, only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Most of us have memories of these kind of experiences. But it was my jobso I tried not to think about it much. 4 Paul Domke, who carried extra belts of ammo and fed them into the gun. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. In an instant the jungle erupted in gunfire. If there was anything to this life expectancy of a few minutes then myself and many of my friends that are still alive today would be a long time dead. If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war in Vietnam, they have a different opinion from the American news media. hb```8fB cBLd2>Tb jz1@E; aK6Tmc.Nn"&gn7hj'wm,h d6p4u0`&88:,TMV&
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Certainly got my attention. I was in the AF a Reo in a F4-C. Who had time to worry about the life 101st Airborne Division. It didnt matter who you were or where you were. Eventually I found a spot where the bed leveled off and began firing on the NVA. Hats off to them. The TOTAL number of CIB and CMB awarded would give you the answer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Army suffered the most total casualties, 38,179 or 2.7 percent of its force. What percentage of Vietnam veterans actually saw combat? Was a door gunner and crew chief for just shy of 18 months (I extended to get out early). I was already lugging around a 24-pound weapon, 300 rounds of ammo and a pack that weighed a good 45 pounds. If youre a foreigner, I respect what you think, but make sure you read ALL your facts, and dont come to rash conclusion until you know everything from BOTH sides. More importantly, Grandstaff was very gung-ho. Completa las oraciones con la forma correcta del presente de subjuntivo de los verbos entre parntesis.? That was a hell of a responsibility to take on. Keep in step with US Wings Join our newsletter to receive all our latest news and offers, Example: Yes, I would like to receive emails from US Wings. HOOAH!!! of what was usually 5 or 6 going in and many times the leads would find traps, punji pits or the VC waiting. 1 Gun, I jumped into a small dry streambed with Domke, my assistant gunner. So do us all a favor and please learn to be tolerant, intelligent, and active. Hi, the whole thing is going nicely here and ofcourse every one . where can i find red bird vienna sausage? If you have other information let me know. endstream
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This Battle changed his life and his future, had it not been for his actions, every man on this FSB Gold would have died. Anyway I was wondering about the RTOs in a grunt platoon, was that their MOS or were they 11B that carried a PRC ? The key may be the word initial since we became more savvy with successive combats and had improved survivability. Its just (bad) luck, fate, randomness theres no right or wrong, no justice or fairness, no reasoning. Fortunately, it was recorded on Spotify and can be listened to here: Thank you for both articles: (1)Going up river to port and (2) the flight from Italy back to Nam. There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans and non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group (Source: Veterans Administration Study). The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand stayed free of Communism because of the U.S. commitment to Vietnam. During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served was: 9,492,958. NFS. The Vietnam Conflict Extract Data File of the Defense Casualty Analysis System (DCAS) Extract Files contains records of 58,220 U.S. military fatal casualties of the Vietnam War.
Statistics about the Vietnam War - VHPA However, inaccurately reported, the News Media made the Tet Offensive famous. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. An interesting essay, even more interesting are the comments. The incredibly important role in the U.S. Army is responsible for defending the country through real-life combat. 1 Gun was on my hip with the safety off, ready to rock and roll. We looked for cover and returned fire the best we could. You of course had the radio plus xtra batteries & handsets plus your rucksack with 7 to 8 canteens , 20 mags ( I used to carry 17 rounds in the mags instead of 20 ) because the springs would force the round into the chamber causing jams . We flew north, then made a stop, in Cam Rahn Bay. 2: role (MOS?). Ed, I was in a Grunt Platoon in Vietnam 70-71. If you were an administrative officer or clerk in an air-conditioned trailer in Saigon, your war might be a lot like peacetime duty. Though I flew only about 1/2 dozen missions as a Huey door gunner, I was initially told to sit on my flak jacket I always did so (personal protection first). Ambushed on October 4th,1967. DeLong had only fired the weapon once in training, so I let him fire off a few rounds to practice. I served in A Company 3/22 of the 3rd Brigade 4th Infantry 12/66, then Hq Co 2/12 of the 3rd Brigade 25th Inf until the night of the TET offensive end of January 1968 and returned home July 18 1968. meaning what is the chance of me getting killed in combat. I was lucky too but VN never left me. An NVA soldier had evidently spotted the gun and waited patiently for me to stick my head up. Average age of men killed: 23.1 years Total Deaths: 23.11 years Enlisted: 50,274; 22.37 years Officers: 6,598; 28.43 years Warrants: 1,276; 24.73 years E1: 525; 20.34 years Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old. !We dont abuse prisoners Now, if he reaches for his weapon to continue the fight BLOW HIS ASS AWAY THIS AINT SUNDAY SCHOOL!!! .. In that time 4 us kia and 4 wounded. Either way, thats a lot of soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and coast guardsmen, male and female that made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, and there are still people dying as a result of their wounds receiver so very long ago in a place called Vietnam. Thanks for the reply. Nervous, I set up my gun on the hill and loaded a new hundred-round belt. 2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam. Much smaller income differentials in life expectancy, 0.2 to 3.6 life-years smaller for Veterans in 2010-17 are estimated. Really no mention of the regular rifleman. "The Cotton Balers, damn fine Soldiers." The Battalion returned to Fort Benning on October 11, 1970 and was inactivated. Great story!!! 23,24 This study found that the death rate for Vietnam veterans was 1.3 times that for non-Vietnam veterans; however, the excess deaths were limited to Engineer Corps members (RR, 2.5). A documentary about our company and our 1st Sgt was made. Enemy fire greeted as us as soon as we landed near the village. I had to rely on my gun more than before. Our Aussie Dust off choppers had door gunners, we worked on the theory if the Noggies would shot at Red Cross choppers, we would return fire, Aussie grunt, 60000 00 Aussies fought in Vietnam, Up the Old Red Rooster and more beer. His comparison to a FB was that if we were fired on we returned fire and requested assistance when needed.
Vietnam War soldiers I was an Infantry Scout Dog handler. While I was in training, my motivation was to get these wings and I wear them today proudly, the airman recalled in 2015. I carried the proc 26 radio after I was asked by my field 1st ( E 7 ) if I would for my platoon . Of the . Appx: 6 months in, all of the 543d TC joined forces with the 572d TC. Thats why they called us GRUNTS ! But I made it back in one piece. I think what is missing is the fact that the life expectancy of those firing at us was much shorter than those that they were firing at. I, in turn, would take an M16 rifle, which felt like a feather in comparison. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. As we approached the battle, we heard intense firing. Soldier,this is a wardont forget that, and anytime we are in a fight we will be toughest SOBs in the fight!! It was very nearly my last. Nevertheless, I swung No. Suddenly I realized that my platoon sergeant was screaming at me to stop firing. 9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the official Vietnam era from August 5, 1964 to May 7, 1975. Few areas of the world have been as hotly contested as the India-Pakistan border. 11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. As I carried a PRC25 radio for over seven-months in the > Nam, I was curious to find out what I did RIGHT to surv >, One MOS I figured was a sure short timer was POL{Fuel} Truck Driver. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth. 1 Gun before my luck ran out. sweep team,then I heard the choppers and they were blowing the hell out in the tree line then it just got so quiet like nothing I was never hit by enemy fire even though they had multiple opportunities after that I was an rto for the company commander and I have to say both jobs were not fun. Me, a vehicle mechanic with Btry E, 41st Arty Quads 1970. On average US troops served 1-2 years in Vietnam, and the percentage of troops killed was actually fairly low for a war this size, 2.14% of all who served were killed, the life expectancy was roughly around 1 year, 5 months and 3 weeks (taking into account the 1-2 year difference in some troops's serving times) Sponsored by Primal Labs I saw killed and wounded everywhere in our combat operations. Bravo, 3/187th Inf, 101st Airborne Div, 2nd Plt, 2nd Sq, Hamburger Hill, May 69. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. We used to provide cover for these guys. well I wonder how long your going to last lieutenant? As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat.
I always found life expectancy numbers interesting in that I could never find any supporting information that could be validated. Mech. Our home base was Quang Tri fire Base, But I spent about 6 months out at Mai Loc with the rig. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. Bob Sanzone. Hack volunteered for service in Vietnam in 1968, joining the 1st Infantry Division. I know this is a standard cliche, but it is so true, All gave some. Well he didnt make it. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S. forces. 1 Gun. I had an assistant gunner, Spc. I sure feel for all you guys that went outside the wire. Bloody May 1968 Mini TET. Soldiers from 2nd Platoon, Company C, 87th Infantry Regiment, walk on patrol north of the Long . Just published my book The Last Goodbye by John Fratangelo, available on line on Barnes and Noble and Amazon Prime Books, Getting great reviews. This is not Vietnam where a machine gunner's life expectancy was short because you had an entire army shooting at them. Subscribe to receive our weekly newsletter with top stories from master historians. Your email address will not be published. I am 81 now and survived the encounter by terminated the sniper. I spent my year in Vietnam with the 1/22nd infantry part of the 4th division. hmK#1+yNvA I was wounded 3 times during the 10 1/2 months I was in-country before being medevacd out in Apr of 68. Seattle, Washington(WA), 98106. In the few firefights and skirmishes we had with local VC, the gun always performed well. If you would like to get a copy, and cant find it, let me know, and I will make sure you get one.
How Many Vietnam Veterans Are Still Alive In 2022? - CLJ by Zita Ballinger Fletcher 1/18/2022. Interesting, I carried a Prick 25, for 2 months. Lt lost a finger, same time. 2) by my research, medics suffered 93% casualties with about 33% deaths. We took fire all the time and responded. maybe your question i vauge. Joe DeLong joined the company, and Sholly informed me that he would be the M60 gunner. There were also wounded. After a couple of hours, the Viet Cong stopped shooting and melted back into the jungle. Calculate the pH of a solution of 0.157 M pyridine.? Unable to reach Company A, my company pulled back, formed a perimeter and called in air and artillery support. I was a 2nd Lt. Infantry platoon Leader. We killed a lot of the enemy but we took few serious casualties. He also worked on Jacqueline Kennedys hair pieces and wigs. Cruz quite a lot. We all have opinions, this is mine. 97% of Vietnam Veterans were honorably discharged. said to me. My shit got weak and a sniper popped three rounds in my young ass. I've never heard about the life expectancy of 6 weeks (even with a short google search). Mi hermana se sorprende N-F C-F Cl-F F-F 2 Answers C-F is the most polar. a RTO got killed, it happened within 5 seconds but not that always ALL RTOs got killed. 1 Gun, as always, thumped out a throaty roar as I fought desperately to push the enemy back. Fact: 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers. May they rest in peace. Here are statistics from the Combat Area Casualty File (CACF) as of November 1993. All the comments and replies are of absolute truth, I was only 18 when I got to Nam ,Im a country boy from NC so here I am Like you, I carried a PRC-25 for about 5 months and never got hit. In Company A, 22 men had been killedadded to the seven killed in Company B. Not long after the artillery barrage ended, the North Vietnamese swept through 4th Platoon and executed some of the survivors. He was killed in an ambush along with three others. Sorry,I was one of your Brothers in Arms that helped talk you out of enlisting for another year in Vietnam. I was a point man, M60 Gunner and squad leader. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served. This is not Vietnam where a machine gunners life expectancy was short because you had an entire army shooting at them. Thank You Roger!!! RIght there and the NVA we were usually up against knew this. Spent my year in a Recon platoon 2/35th 4th ID. the life expectancy of a LT in Vietnam in major combat was 16 minutes. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter. Sure but so was everyone else who went 12 months without getting killed or wounded. No. Great reading. year old Marine thinking this is my last day on earth. 240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War. Our battalion operated at a base camp near Tuy Hoa in Phu Yen province along the South China Sea from October 1966 to January 1967. It was an HONOR and a privilege to serve with these brave men for my 11 month tour. 1st Platoon, C Company, 2nd Battalion 327th Infantry. Was No. Company B arrived in-country with four rifle platoons, and each platoon was armed with two M60s.
What Is The Average Life Expectancy Of A Vietnam Veteran? 1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, 1995 (census figures). From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. Love you Wortman!!!! After a quick lesson, DeLong became the new owner of 4th Platoons No.1 Gun.
What was the average life expectancy for soldiers during World War 2 They were great patriots fighting for their families and their homeland. Walked point way to many times but never had contact. Thank You for your courageous service as an RTO with the legendary Hawk Recon Platoon. As we were, steadily building up, our area for protection. Here is an 18 Now, the wisdom of this soldier tough but humanly compassionate warrior ethos can be assessed through the 2d Bn recordNO complaints about mistreatment of prisonerswhile achieving the most combat SUCCESSES IN THE BRIGADE. Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent. Fact: Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. First Sgt. The planes doing the bombing near the village were VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. Rules may have changed, I was in the Delta region.
Postservice Mortality in Vietnam Veterans : 30-Year Follow-up - JAMA It doesnt make any sense statistically/mathematically it is impossible. Sure, its softer than it was before, but the training they go through is intense, something a loser who spends his time on the computer all day attacking people he doesnt know anything about and all the facts CANNOT do. Now, to calmly answer your question, air strikes have actually been an efficient technique used by us for years now. Different type units, different locations, different opinions on dangers. In the First Armored Division, now part of the 23rd Infantry Division, commonly known as the Americal Division, combat medics were called into action every day because the fighting was now. The incident in the photo took place on the second day of a three day battle between the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) who were trying to force the NVA out of the village. He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. We walked the mountains and rice patties all thru Tu Thien Province. Different strokes for different folks in war fer sure. Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old. They were lazy, cowardly and of questionable loyalty, especially the RUFF/PUFFS, and they would steal your under ware if given half a chance. 4 Answers aaja Come. I watched in horror as four NVA soldiers ambled through the branches of a downed tree that partially concealed us. It was on the Job Training ! There must have been a real mathematician to come up with those calculations. Does this mean addressing to a crowd? well i have been army infantry for 12 years with 2 deployments, and still going strong.
What was the average life expectancy of a soldier in battle on - Quora Often as not he was right beside you with a stolen chicken and a bag of rice. Soon after, Pfc. I was never formally trained as an RTO. On the morning of March 22, 1967, companies A and B of my battalion began a search-and-destroy operation along the Cambodian border. May was eventually able to hand off 2nd Platoons No. I was trained as a RTO in 1970 at Fort Ord then went to Fort Gordon for teletype school, my MOS was 05C20 when I finished. HistoryNet.com contains daily features, photo galleries and over 25,000 articles originally published in our nine magazines. This is excellent! As far as I knew that was done in the whole battalion in 1968 . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_of Look for the blue accessibility symbol floating on every page of our website and click on it to tailor your viewing experience to your particular disability. The three of us had trained together at Fort Lewis and were good friends. As I remember it the life expectancy was based on after the ambush was sprung or the fire fight started. In 1973, Renza opened his own salon in Peekskill. In Vietnam 70% 0f the casualties were Infantry BUT it might be 70% of ALL the Infantry that served in Vietnam. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. we were getting it with machine gun and mortars. I think those numbers are percentages of US KIA, not mortality times. We did interdictions, blocks and other fun things on the river. Express your answer in terms of x. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. I was a REMF but Ive heard of 05Cs that were stuck out in the boonies on a firebase. We can all hold our heads high and be proud of our service. Work Plz. It began just as, it was getting dark. Also , it I might add that the, Government big wigs, have a quota [percentage]of a lot of the Military equipment etc that had a certain amount of time to function until it was disable, blow up, wrecked, junk, etc. Required fields are marked *. Both served in A 2/18 1st Infantry Division For some reason, the written word of this article was somehow deleted and lost. Just to show that its hard to get an accurate number, note my typo of 56,220. Sholly injured an ankle, and 1st Lt. Cary Allen took command of Company B. Why is my internet redirecting to gslbeacon.ligit.com and how do I STOP THIS. hbbd```b`` ,&Iw sA '#o To my surprise, I qualified as an expert with the M60 machine gun, nicknamed the pig because of the size, weight and sound of the weapon. 4 Joey Piambino were to my right in the streambed.
Which soldier had the shortest life-expectancy? - Quora What the hell did you hit him with? one of our men shouted. Two of my closest friends in the company, Spc. I was to have that experience two more times before it was over. The gas-operated, belt-fed gun had a maximum rate of fire of 550-650 rounds per minute. The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, NOT American military running for their lives. is sharing facts, thats truly good, keep up writing. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of Kim Phucs brothers were killed in this incident. We had been carrying machine guns for over seven months. I know the scouts in my company had a slightly longer rate but not much. Staying alive was kinda of important. I couldnt see DeLong and didnt know if No. Roger Loves you too, Im sure.
Military history of African Americans in the Vietnam War Wow I was 31.8 Gun shot Carried model 1200 Winchester shot gun WIA May 68 Article was great. means: 1 gets killed the 1st second, another one after 9 seconds avg. An interesting comment I had. The CDC Vietnam Experience Study Mortality Assessment showed that during the first 5 years after discharge, deaths from suicide were 1.7 times more likely among Vietnam veterans than non-Vietnam veterans. The average life expectancy of a Soviet soldier during the height of the battle was just 24 hours. 75,000 Vietnam veterans are severely disabled. He pulled the company into a perimeter and dispatched 4th Platoon to recon the trail to the west, while 1st Platoon performed a similar mission to the east-southeast. The most comprehensive and authoritative history site on the Internet. Without the helicopter it would have taken three times as many troops to secure the 800 mile border with Cambodia and Laos (the politicians thought the Geneva Conventions of 1954 and the Geneva Accords or 1962 would secure the border). To keep busy on the boat ride to Vietnam, my unitCompany B, 1st Battalion, 8th Infantry Regimentheld competitions where we took the gun apart and put it back together while blindfolded to see who could do it fastest. The Statistics in the Combat Area Casualty File (CACF 11/93) show an average age of death much higher than that of news reports. And us the living that served, who suffer from PTSD ,that figure or percent-aged would be about the greatest of all. The machine guns were numbered within each platoon. At age 55, World War 2 Veterans Also, it would mean the killed RTOs died within seconds of the fight (it doesnt distinguish between ambush or regular fight, eg. So I guess i lasted longer than I was supposed to. If it had been up to me, I would have awarded my gun the CIB too. Many were killed or wounded ! We wanted a break. When Apache Snow began, I was an RTO, after Airborne, and before the CA on Dong Ap Bia, I became the AG for Roeski. It was a chaotic nightmare. Or is it on display in a Hanoi museum so curious citizens of that city can inspect a weapon captured from American imperialists? Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. 1: physical position (in the field / column)
Soldier Life Expectancy in Ukraine 'Meat Grinder' Is 4 Hours: Marine Our chase after the enemy unwittingly led us into a large ambush.